September Articles

Page 8: The text following the "from the editor" should be in italic.
Page 9: Gerbert picture was added today in the wiki, sorry.
Page 10: The text following the "from the editor" should be in italic.
Page 11: I'd like the Doh World picture to have a full page or at least a half a page.

The rest seems very good. :)

Theremin... I prefer not to edit the length of the articles.. let the writers do it; It's less offensive. I'll probably just ask for 750 words and less.... the 2 main articles too long are the Mysterium ones... and they were taken from already written blog posts. Trimming was done but apparently not enough.

and cut out and ready. :)
Szark

lol, I'd already done that :P (& cropped & background fill), but thanks anyway! love the interference :D
Is this the wikimagic? :lol:
I have some wishes though: I'd like to post the pics as I used (&cropped/altered) along with the originals, could we have some photopage (flickr or photobucket? with shared inlogname+password? public?) where I can upload them, so Gbadji (and other to come) can use those/take it from the wiki. I don't mind to send an email with the bits & pieces, no trouble (saves upload and tagtime), but it would be easy for the other party.

I'll get busy on the last bits, and will upload a semi-final pdf asap (final when editor approves).

And it is blu, very good ! :)
So here's my last minuters;

Thanks blu.
Looking a lot better already, nice work on the logo and LOVE the hourglass behind editorial.
Page 8 D'ni Circadian Rhythm: Righthand Col, 2nd para, no where should be nowhere.
Page 11 DohWorld (and the Index on page 1) DohWorld is two words as shown on the website http://koti.mbnet.fi/dohworld/ Doh! World...also in the block on the right side the 'w' of Dohworld should be CAPitalized.
Andros, Marten et all, An aside about the 'Join the GoMe' messege in last month's Newsletter;
First, it should be in every GoMe newsletter. Second, it should be edited to be shorter and more to the point. Third it should be right before our standard footer or combined with it to make it all one piece.
I made some archaic edits below. AND our new GoMe homepage url should be part of it.

I re-edited the edit, had more time to work on the idea.
The bracketed space is for the GoMe homepage url and the missing text at the end is FORUM that is the url for the forum. I didn't know how to embed them into a picture. :shock:

I personally don't think it is useful but if people really want to keep it in, I won't object.

To continue Al's trimming of the "join the Gome". I'd remove the "lifetime free membership guaranteed".

Have corrected the things Alkaera wrote (except for the GoMe ad, didn't have room anymore, sorry)

PM'ed editor with the semi-final, if she approves it can be distributed :D
(and I will get the assemble-stuff to the translators).

I won't make the same mistake twice. ;)
I've reviewed the September Newspaper and it is great! But a Pm has been sent to the "Newsletter people" to take a look at it for the next 24h hours. If something needs to be fixed before being spread in the cavern, now is the time. So tomorrow Veralun will receive a Pm to upload it and it will be ready for e-mail/forum distribution along with a little message to include (not a long survey this time, don't worry! :D )

I may have seen a mistake...."What happenned in the last month?(Page 1, written twice)....
Is it happenned or happened?

And something missing: "To submit your artwork to be selected as the "Art Piece of the month", send us an e-mail at

gomenewsletter@gmail.com

Good luck!" at the end of the "D'ni Creativity Corner" article.

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Al, you could proofread this please? ;)

"Newspaper Feedback

Thanks to the feedback we received for the last Newsletter regarding the future of this Guild of Messengers product, several changes has been made to reflect the needs of the cavern community. The GoMe Newsletter became the GoMe Newspaper. We doubled the number of pages and concentrated the news into the first 3 pages. New features popped up including a comic strip, a monthly column from the Guild of Archivists and much more.

After reading the Newspaper, please wrote us back and tell us which articles were your favorites and which ones you disliked. General comments about the Newspaper are welcomed.
It's only through feedback that the GoMe Newspaper will better fit your needs so do not hesitate to give us your input."

OK, I have now corrected the thing, and got the remarks by PM's (Marten, Leo) and forumthread (Andros).
Ideally this should be fed by editor: editor gathers remarks and changes the wiki and assemblers and translators get it from there (maybe after sign 'go' of editor).
Now I have made the changes to the wiki, and I hope it's clear (if not: blame and slap me, lol) ;)
The 24 hrs aren't over yet, so perhaps there will be more to comment on by members of the team... I'll see.
(Please don't make too much more comments, the puzzle will all start over again to get it fitted, 1 sentence more or less seems no big a deal, but when shuffling words and images it is!)

Thanks Andros,
AlKaera

Found another error: in the Guilding Article. In the GoMa Part.
"Plus the internal GoMa guild structure now has seven departments, each with their own Guild master."
Should be changed to:
"Plus the internal GoMa guild structure now has seven departments, each with their own Grand master."

ok, I will get the horribly (PM, Alkaera - happened changed already) and Grand (above, Leo), and will pull the pdf from my upload page, lol

I think it's wise to remove the download link. lol Seems like we're never gonna publish it :) But i'm to blame because I asked people for input.

So yeah, Blu, what you will send me will be our final "I swear" PDF. :mrgreen:

Thanks for your input guys! I just wish I had asked for your help earlier. :)

when is closing time for remarks & reporting errors?

Right about now. ;)

Oh, wait wait wait!!!!! There's another correction!

It's PDF! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Do you want to take a walk in the forest in Gahreesen Leo? I heard it's a very fun way to relax after working SO hard on the Newspaper. :twisted:

> sent PM to editor to upload the final pdf :D

> sent PM to Leo & Gbadji to get them the assemble stuff needed for the translations (+ message from editor regarding feedback)

Have a good distribution! :lol:

Sent to Veralun to upload.

The official link to the September Newspaper:

http://www.uruarchives.com/September%20 ... spaper.pdf

Please also include in the distribution:

"Newspaper Feedback

Thanks to the feedback we received regarding the future of the Newsletter, several changes have been made to reflect the wishes of the community. The GoMe Newsletter has been expanded into the GoMe Newspaper. We concentrated the news onto the front pages, included a comic strip, a monthly column from the Guild of Archivists, and added more articles of interest.

After reading the Newspaper, write back and tell us which articles are your favorites and which ones you disliked. General comments about the Newspaper are welcomed also.
It's only through your responses that the GoMe Newspaper will better fit your needs, so please do not hesitate to let us know."

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Great work Newpaper team! It really is a great product that we created this month. Big thumb up!

:D YAY!!! :mrgreen:

/me begins Assembler work

Can I have the all clear on the annoucement please. I will not do anything until I have it, cheers.

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Szark

:lol: It seems almost a threat.

Seconded!

During the initial review period, it's fine for everyone to make changes on the wiki, but any last minute changes (such as those recommended during the review after Andros sent out notification to the newsletter team) are best handled by the Editor. At that point, you are trying to finish and publish a newsletter, so the Editor needs to decide which changes are worth the effort, and which are needless perfectionist nitpicking (like most of my edits usually are :oops: ). As the "deadline" for completion approaches, you've got to apply tighter control to changes, and minor fixes (especially if there are many) may not be worth the delay. It's a way of thinking that just goes along with wearing the "Editor cap."

No not a threat Leo. It seems that no one remembers last issue, when I asked for the complete annoucement to be ready for me to post it on the forums. But again I had to go away and complete it so I asked for the OK as it is not up to me to word it. The reasons being, well todays e-mail shows that. No attactment, I was not told and if I had posted that annoucement on 29 forums I would have been peed off having to go and alter them all. Some I can not even Edit. I have had to do that in the past and it takes 3 times as long to edit them all than it is to post the original. Plus The RSS feed shouldn't be amended. I hope that answers your question Leo as prove that it was not a threat. :D

Szark

Szark: Honestly including an attachment did not even cross my mind even though I probably did include one the last time. Link or attachment, both are one click away so I'm not sure I see the problem...

Marten: Honestly, I agree with you and Blu. When I asked for extra pairs of eyes to make sure our newspaper was not missing... like half an artcile like last month, I did not expect the large response from the people contacted through PM. The various things that people noticed (including what your wrote) were very good improvement or stupid mistakes to leave in. I did decide to not use some comments I received but even though it was last minute, the changes made were for the best. But I do wish I had asked for comments earlier in the process. Maybe I can do that in the future... Receiving this late major feedback that would have been more appropriate in the various stages(Writing, proofread, pictures) was strange... even though I asked for it.

I think the problem is: Szark has to post 1 message at all the forums to announce the newsletter, if the text is not cleared and there is nog 'go' moment, Szark is in the dark. If Szark goes ahead and doesn't wait for approval/release/go, it's a possibility we/editor thinks of some change, and he has to go back to all his posted announcements, and some of them can't be altered, it seems we are doing a messy job.

I think you got more response now, because it is in a lay-out, the text is more 'living' and mistakes are better to find.
I think we need proofreaders for the separate stages, when I asked Alkaera to proofread for the first time, I wanted him to stay freash until the first draft of the pdf was there. But he did such a good job, the former editor wanted him also in the early stage, lol. Ergo: we need an alpha and a beta proofreader :D
Proofreaders can make a lot of comments, but the editor must have the last say in things, so next time,all comments please through editor, and editor manages the process when & who gets some to work on, or makes a decision to do it plenair in the forums, but preferably with some rules set (time, communicationlines and actions).
I notice I really get caught in action at assembling state, and I don't have a mind that time to think clear, so it'gets kinda messy when I try to do editor stuff... (sorry about that).

Thanks blu :wink:
I tend to agree with alpha and beta now that the newsletter is part of a much larger newspaper. Theremin offered to do 'PROOF'ing in another post. Andros, you can let him know he has a side job.
The situation I found for myself was, with so much to read, I got so focused on the article text that was copy/past for blutec I skimmed the headers, footers, index list etc, looking for bigger errors. So with two sets of eyes looking at the same time, Theremin and I can build ONE list of things found to correct and send back to Andros. This is, of course the pdf, the 'proof'ing on the wiki can be done without a list being built.
Are you up to it T? You and I can work out how to do ONE list of pdf errors so that Andros doesn't have to collate the feedback. lol
AlKaera

I love that plan Al! :)
Of course it all depends on if Theremin wants to still do it. ;) I offered him the interviewer job but I imagine him being a beta proofreader being more important. After all, I did double Al's work without even talking to you about it. Sorry.

You can't have too many proofreaders as long as just one person decides what changes ultimately get implemented.