So Ainia is working on a project about the Prologue. Anyone have any ideas where she can find pictures of that era? I was going to just PM both Marten and Musica, but decided to post this here. (Because this way anyone can "jump in" to help.) I know Musica is doing an article about HN: Prologue and Matren's videos at GreatTree documents that time and may contain the kind of info she might be seeking. I figured they'll read this eventually and reply. (Instead of me having to act as a "go-between".) I'm also going to pass her the link to this thread. Thanks everyone for your time at reading this!
Really, the best way I know is to reach out to folks who were in Prologue and might have 'em. There may still be a few photo galleries on the 'net somewhere with images too... if you find 'em, let Leo or me know please, we could add them to rel.to.
Thanks for your responses so far. I checked out both web sites and found a bit there that is helpful, but there still are a great many historic images I'm missing. I am in the process of compiling a list of these illustrations and will post it here as soon as it is ready.
In the meanwhile, if anyone has any other brainwaves (or knows of an Uru "old-timer" that might be willing to talk with me about this), please let me know here.
Henry sent me the message below via ki-mail. Thought I'd pass it along. I did remove the link we already have from the message. You may wish to pm HenryMikel directly on the MOULa forums, as he mentioned he also has pics on his computer from that era when we chatted. Hope this helps!!!
EDIT: Here's the thread he mentioned.
Mudpie* & Prologue
In case you don't know Mudpie was before Prologue - and never public.
In the MYSTonline.com forums:
Spoiler Free subforum there is a topic "Any Knowledge of Mudpie" that contains a lot of links - most of them still valid. You will have to use the search function to find this topic. It's several pages back. It has some pictures enbedded also.
Referenced in that topic (and the better links):
http://marien.org/dni/oldstuff - a public ftp site with several early pics, movies etc. Marien goes way back - well before me.
(*Nevyn's Note: Mudpie!?! Minktata?!? Well, I guess those are better than just something like "Age Five". Lol!!)
Let me think...
First demo of the engine is called "Dirt" (D'ni in real time)
Mudpie was after that and led to Uru.
In the summer of 2002 Cyan invited some explorers to an exclusive beta test called "Choru" (Some time ago the NDA expired and pictures/videos were posted)
Ubiru was a larger closed beta.
Rehearsel, again a larger beta that ended primarily due to "clerical error" after which it is usually reffered to as Prologue. Technically the game was still in beta version during prologue though :P
sources : memory(from what others told me) and http://en.mystlore.com/
Here's my first cut at a list of photographs I need for the Prologue/Heritage Documents project. Of course, higher quality images are preferred (800x600 pixels or better). The People list includes some individuals that I'm pretty sure there are no photos of, which I've marked with a star (*).
- John Loftin (*)
- Elias Zandi (*)
- Willow "Wheely" Engberg
- Rosette "Rose" Taylor
- Brian Fioca
- Professor Clarke
- DRC group photo (early years)
- DRC group photo (later years with Cate Alexander)
- Douglas Sharper in Teledahn
- Phil Henderson at Kemo
- early Kahlo Pub
- early Great Tree Pub (Sharper's restoration, when it had yellow walls and vases)
- Watson's toast for the opening of the Cavern
- Phil's first and second returns to Kemo
- Phil's visit to the 'hood light garden and the Yeesha page appearance
- Sharper's Yeesha Journey return (when he wears a Yeesha shirt)
- Phil's kidnapping by the DRC
- Phil's climb up to the Guild Hall
The Great Scream:
- Relto ages reset
- Negilahn massacre and DRC expedition to investigate
- Kahlo Pub crack
- Spike in Bahro activity/presence in the Cavern
- Wheely and Rosette exploring the Cavern and Pod ages
- Sharper's return from Negilahn and debriefing in the DZS Bevin
A New Light:
- Great Zero activation
- Kahlo Pub memorial
- Sharper's visit to UO 'hood, insistence on going to Noloben and killing a Bahro
- Sharper is back from Noloben, acting strange (Nick's talk in Great Tree Bevin)
- Sharper visits Watcher's Pub and talks about Noloben and the Bahro civil war
- Bahro activity in City spikes
- Phil is seen on a City rooftop surrounded by Bahro
- Phil and Sharper talk; Phil warns about the coming war
- Phil appears in 'hoods, talking incoherently about colors
- Watson gives speech in Blabbity's Bevin
- Bahro war arrives in Cavern
- Bahro leader is seen atop Kerath's arch
I know Jana has been doing some digging for you, Ainia. She said she sent you a PM on the MOUL forum.
You may consider asking ghaelen and Ruby for permission to pull screenshots from their CCN footage. In particular, you'll find live footage that I recorded and narrated myself for Phil's return in "Familiar Voices" in CCN's July 2007 episode. That will at least cover "Phil and Sharper talk; Phil warns about the coming war" http://www.caverncommunicationsnetwork.com/archives/date/2007/08
For anything involving the DZS, reach out to Rils via PM on one of the forums where he has an account.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm actually in the home stretch regarding the photos, though still would like to get a few more (I'll have to provide the particulars a bit later as I'm writing from the wrong location to check for sure). janaba1's old stash was wonderfully helpful, so many thanks to you for posting at the Great Tree on my behalf. I've been talking with DimensionTravelerCalum (Cal) about the project and he's agreed to mention the journal at the upcoming Heritage Night events and has suggested that we get it linked to rel.to. You are the person who can help with that, right? I'll go ahead and post a formal request via the rel.to online form in the meanwhile. Details follow:
Here's the latest draft of the journal. The location and file name should be stable, so a rel.to link should work for any future updates. The journal itself is a PDF file, ~25MB in size. I usually include a parenthetical note that the file can be right-clicked and downloaded locally in order to view it like a real book (some browsers don't seem to support this very well when viewing the journal through the browser window via a direct click, probably to do with the inherent resizing behavior to the journal by the browser).
I will keep the option of frame grabs from the videos in my back pocket just in case I can't find stills.
Again, a thousand thanks for your help with this!
@Ainia: I sent PMs to both Dadguy and Tai. I don't think Mac will be much help...As I recall, he first entered the cavern during the Gametap era. I'm not sure if that's "far enough" back. My knowledge of the various times is "sketchy", as I'm not even close to being done with the MOULa forums. Sorry I'm not more help. I'll also send a message to EthanEver. Let me know if there's anything else I can do.